oldhacks (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

thanks for all these wonderful posts.

drummer78 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

You make excellent points. I think some of the young kids who say, "this is crap...no blast beats" are just beyond talking to intelligently at this point. It's like trying to have a logical discussion with a pug. Anyway, if they love the drums as they mature, then I think they'll come to realize the importance of Max Roach. Until then, I just try to avoid reading their dopey comments on youtube.

bagilla2000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

there is a track by a band called cinematic orchestra in which the solo played by roach at 4:04 is used...I think their drummer loops about 8 bars...and on top of this the band made a new arrangement. I forgot the song..its on their album motion.In my opinion Max is a master, simply because most of his solos are hummable (if thats the word) they are melodies rather then flashy demonstrations.thats just what I think

1hipgig (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

just so everybody understands. THE reason Max is so revered is because he was a PIONEER. He invented it. So for all the drummers that transcribe. That's what I do too. To understand any great musician, just listen to what was being played 5 to 10 years before they played. To the young drummers who don't understand Max, listen to "A Blues Note" from Sonny Rollins (1955 I think)...that beat is the basis for what EVERY modern jazz drummer does today

1hipgig (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

just so everybody understands. THE reason Max is so revered is because he was a PIONEER. He invented it. So for all the drummers that transcribe. That's what I do too. To understand any great musician, just listen to what was being played 5 to 10 years before they played. To the young drummers who don't understand Max, listen to "A Blues Note" from Sonny Rollins (1955 I think)...that beat is the basis for what EVERY modern jazz drummer does today

drummer78 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

High schools are full of pimple faced adolescents, square parents, and burnt out administrators and teachers (or do-goodie types). I mean, your h.s. band experience is great but maybe you can find a small group of like minded folks and play at some cool loft parties with artsty folks who will love you.

j4zzDrumm3r (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

man i here you, we don't get much of an audience at our high school jazz concerts no matter how much we spread the word. jazz is the language of musicians and can only be appreciated by people who REALLY understand music. i uploaded some vids from our last concert, it'd be cool if some people could check it out.

Sloppydrummer (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

there are a lot of well know jazz high school's. berkeley california high school is home to a lot of well known jazz musicians. keep practicing man and you'll find your place.

playswithpassion (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

yea, most people don't have the attention span for it and it just doesn't click with them because it doesn't have that "dance-able" pulse that has become so popular with today's pop music. I'm getting so into jazz lately, it's the style I'm working on honing the most now.

drumkid2492xx (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

i dont get it im 16 and jazz is truely my favorite style i guess im a minority in this case only cause im one on the only real jazz drummer in my school and its a shame nobody listens to jazz as much anymore