sadhubeast (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Well realyogi, I dont think your respect bares any effect in his fabulous work.

realyogi1008 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I believe it is better to fall down from sannyasa as Prem did by getting married instead of being a hypocrite and having sex with other men's wives or prostitutes or molesting children the way so many so called devotees have.Narayana Maharaj thinks that Kirtananda has remorse but I think he absolutely none and will have to face the yamadudas one day.I can not have any respect for NM always supporting the homosexual molesters. Forgiveness is divine but association with demons is stupidity.

bvnarayanamj (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Different people call one and the same person in different way - sadhu, sinner etc. Srila Narayana Maharaj called here his disciple Prem Prayojan as sadhu. You have a different opinion. I agree with Guru Maharaj. He knows his disciple better.

Harrifer1987 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Yes, even when the most sinful people come to the temple, we still let them in. However, we do not take initiation from them, or call them gurus.

bvnarayanamj (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It is true, Mahaprabhu rejected Chota Haridas. But is said Mahaprabhu accepts everybody without any discrimination, whether one is sinful or not. We should respect all those who are chanting Hare Krsna, especially those who are preaching glory of Mahaprabhu.

Harrifer1987 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

You just said he was very attached to a young woman. Do you not read waht you write?Read Caitanya Caritamrta Madhya Lila Volume one, The chastisement of Junior Haridasa for more on this subject. Sorry I cannot remember the chapter number.

bvnarayanamj (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Although leader of SCSM left sannyas several times it is still not an evidence that he is in material mood of life and has no knowledge od sastra. Inspite of this he may still be very dear to Sri Krsna? Who can say?

Harrifer1987 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

If he is in the material mode of life then he has no deep knowledge of sastra.

bvnarayanamj (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Nobody is perfect! But although not follwing request of his Gurur to take sannyasa again Sri Prem Prayojan Prabhu is still one of the best preachers of Gaudiya-vaishnavism in the world because of his deep knowledge of sastra. Unfortunately he became attached to young woman. But in the future he has a very good chance to become acarya (like Sri Sundar Govinda Maharaj, who left sanyyasa 3 times, but still became acarya of SCSM).

amanirashidi (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I agree with 1000 per cent.